Sunday, April 22, 2007

Early

MyDD, the Daily Kos (whom Duncan calls "The Great Orange Satan"), and many other liberal and progressive blogs are already handicapping and discussing the Democratic primary contests. I have purposely avoided these discussion because, frankly, we are so far away from casting a single vote, there just seems no point in it. Of course, the "money primary" is already under way, but if we remember 1996, Phil Gramm had all sorts of money and we all remember how well he did in the Republican race.

One thing that really bothers me, however, is the level of vitriol that progressives express towards Sen. Clinton. Not only that, if one reads the comment sections on MyDD whenever they discuss polling showing Clinton in the lead, there are all sorts of snarky, and quite frankly unbalanced, comments about how the site is a part of a secret Clinton cabal, that the polls are skewed, etc., etc. We progressives may disagree on many of Sen. Clinton's policy positions, and it is perfectly OK to get as heated as possible, especially as we move closer to the actual primaries, on issues and substantive debating points*. My problem is that too many progressives actually start sounding like whacko wing-nutters, all obsessed with weird fantasies of Clinton conspiracies, and rather than deal with the likelihood that she will be the Democratic nominee, they discuss the intricate back-door manouvering of various members of her staff to undermine and otherwise derail the prospects of her opponents, all of which testify to her lack of morals and principles, etc.

I am not a fan of many of Sen. Clinton's policy stances. I think that there are reasons to oppose her nomination that have little to do with the people she gathers around herself. I think there are reasons to oppose her nomination that have little to do with her husband. In the end, however, if next summer we have Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at the head of the Democratic ticket to the Presidency, I will support her as hard and as often as possible. If John Edwards, or Barack Obama, or Dennis Kucinich, or someone else is the nominee, I will support them - because, as much as I disagree with Sen. Clinton, she will be better by far than our current group of buffoons, crooks, and general miscreants.

Again, all this is early. I honestly have no opinion on whom I want as nominee, because I believe that whoever the Democrats nominate will win. I believe that, unless there is some anti-miracle in which Bush is revealed to more clever than the rest of the world, that Cheney personally finds all of Saddam's WMDs in storage facilities in Syria, that torture actually helps the Unites States and its image around the world, that we all accept that Alberto Gonzalez isn't a corrupt man in far over his head as Attorney General, but actually a competent manager with a keen mind who is not attentive to politics - if any or all these things happen, I doubt that McCain/Rudy/Mit/Thompson(1) or (2) will get more than 100 electoral votes, and in all likelihood less. That is a scary prediction so far in advance, but I will stand by it until November, 2008.

Again, its early. I hope I don't have to write about the whole primary thing until next January, at the least.

*For Neon Prime Time who is fascinated by the contretemps between Clinton and Obama, that is called "democracy", and the disagreements are part and parcel of the process. I think the fact that their exchanges tend to be so heated shows how close they actually are on a variety of issues. And don't forget, this contest is for the highest office in the land, and both Senators are highly ambitious individuals. Politics ain't beanbag, as the saying goes, and both of these people are grown-ups. I think it shows a remarkable lack of understanding of how democracy works to think that the debates and arguments between Obama's and Clinton's campaigns are marks of anything other than what happens in a democracy.

3 comments:

Democracy Lover said...

As one of Senator Clinton's constituents, I have to say that if she becomes the nominee all my worst fears about the Democratic Party will be confirmed. I don't think there's a conspiracy or that she is surrounded by crooks -- I think she is a Republican.

Hillary Clinton is so far removed from the progressive agenda that this nation so desperately needs that her nomination would mean a total abdication of progressive values by the Democratic Party.

There are no Democratic hopefuls that I am really excited about, but I would work and vote for any of them over anyone the Republicans put forward - except Hillary Clinton. I would probably hold my nose and vote for her, but not another dime for the Dems, no yard signs, no bumper stickers, nothing.

If the best the Dems can do is a opportunistic hack with no ideas, no vision, and no consistency, then they deserve to lose.

Geoffrey Kruse-Safford said...

I am pretty much in agreement with you - except to say that I do not think she is a Republican, only because that type of Republican, the Rockefeller-Republican, is pretty much dead and buried (the last one, Lincoln Chafee, got voted out of office last Novermber). I think the Dems have both the middle and the left, at least as it exists in America today.
My larger point is we shouldn't shoot ourselves in the foot next year. Once the dust from the primaries settles, lets get down to the business of doing historical work, doing to the Republicans what they only wish they could do to us.
BTW, as far as the field of Dems goes this year, I haven't seen a sorrier bunch since 1988.

Democracy Lover said...

It seems to me that we (meaning the progressive voters) cannot defeat the Republicans if the only opposition party is firmly planted in the middle of the road with the yellow stripes and dead armadillos (thanks to Jim Hightower).

At this point we have one candidate who is "right" on the issues and has no chance whatever of getting the nomination (Kucinich), and one candidate who at least talks progressive and is rising in the polls (Edwards). I might be able to get enthusiastic about an Edwards candidacy (depending on whether he stays on message), but the rest are just hacks and opportunists.

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